British Promoters who promoted abroad.

I think Sean O'Shea and Orig Williams were partners for a bit. They both ran Ireland, O'Shea first, then Orig. Can't work out how Orig took over from O'Shea and don't suppose I ever will. Maybe Orig just started going more often and O'Shea was winding down.

Orig did Turkey and Kenya and Sudan too I think.

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Orig promoted shows in the Republic of Ireland.He took Haystacks,Randy Turpin,and Fuzzy Kaye amongst others

The London based promotion British Empire Wrestling is promoting in Malta this coming October

I did some research into where Paul Lincoln promoted, overseas, and it appears to coincide with him going back to Australia for a few years in the mid 60's.

He promoted in Malta, taking boxer/wrestler Randy Turpin with him, Randy boxed the Maltese Middleweight Champion, and the rest of the card was wrestling matches.

He appears to have promoted in Africa, not sure where (yet).

He promoted in Hong Kong in 1966 at the Happy Valley Stadium for a month long tournament (I guess based on the German style). In the audience, one night, was the owner of a major Thai Boxing Stadium in Bangkok, and he asked Paul to bring the tour over there as well.

He organised a tour in Italy, where the plan was to to wrestle in a circus tent, that they could take down and travel with, from venue to venue. The local organiser (it seems) did not have the necessary permits, and the tour was stopped. Luckily, a high ranking policeman from Milan, had visited London and had enjoyed many a good meal at an Italian restaurant that Paul owned. So Paul traveled to Milan, tracked him down, and he "helped" get everything sorted out, so the tour could continue.

Rather like when I asked "who over-rated Mike Marino?" it again depends on what precisely "promoted" means.

I think UK promoters got wrestlers on contract, invested in rings and printing, negotiated tv and venue contracts, considered legalities and tax (well, a bit), publicized, built careers, destroyed them when necessary, ensured widespread discipline, through which followed the much sought after credibility. And imposed the great Omerta. All in English.

I believe the most a UK promoter could hope to do is pitch up in a foreign land, having bought and paid the flights and expenses of a willing octet, ensure a bit of posing and grimacing as required, get his nice bill paid, kick some butt and get the wrestlers to the venues on time, sober. And ensure getaway. If this is promoting, lots did it.

OK thanks, I will dig it out and read it again (at some point!)

The Bholu tours are the famous ones in the book, I believe there was another tour after that.

I thought the India and Pakistan shows were huge (according to him) affairs, which were arranged by the Bholu Brothers?, could be getting that wrong, as it is a long time (years) since I read Orig's book.

The Lebanon tours are interesting, because that is where Danny Lynch wrestled a lot (and "won" a world title belt there).

Orig was involved in the promotion of shows in India, Pakistan & Israel. He did have a local promoter in each town "assisting" him (many times their assistance was minimal). There were some tours to Lebanon in the late 60's that look to have been promoted with the aid of someone from the UK. Would like to know more about those.

If you include Ireland then you can can add De Relwyskow.

Don't know if this is stretching a point but Sean O'Shea (JackJefferson) promoted in Ireland and I do very much include the south. My understanding is that he was from Manchester and not Irish although I am not 100 percent on that.

Promoting away from home ... what a nightmare!

Now the Americans do it on a grand scale. But early sixties without mobile phones and internet .... ugh!

You could well be correct SaxonWolf.Maybe I am getting mixed up. Perhaps somebody who has read his book recently could enlighten us.

Years since I read the book, I know he wrestled abroad, can't remember him saying he promoted abroad so would have to read it again.

As for promoting abroad, while he is not strictly British, Paul Lincoln apparently promoted overseas

"... In wrestling's heyday, Lincoln promoted around the world; ..."

Not sure where?