I grew up with WOS but got seduced by the steroid fake tan WWF. Interviews with Karl Gotch and Billy enlightenment me to the shooters, I know there were quite a few Yanks that were legit too. Kendo lives not far from me I've been trying to speak to him about the snake pit and shooters in wrestling.

Thanks SaxonWolf(great name) I'm in touch with Jake Shannon who is in this video. I train submission wrestling myself and find the connection between old pro wrestling and shoot grappling fascinating.

I didn't realise boxing and wrestling were in the same magazine up till 1973 I thought it was up to the 50's. Do you have a link for this online?

Was this a different documenty to The Wigan Hold?

Was this a UK magazine?

Thanks for such a great answer. Do you know if Billy Robinson had any shoot matches not including his amuter ones?