Hack...this cup is an amazing find...and special thanks to Lee for sharing it with heritage members fans of British pro wrestling...now it's a WRYTON BELT time...
Dear bkendo1 I was able to find out that in 1947 Martin Conroy held the Wryton Belt, but looks like in the 1950's besides tradtional Wryton Belt there also has been Wryton Silver Trophy ( I am assuming it was a cup). I am attaching image of Mick McMichael with the Cup, do you recognize it?
Still I have to admit that all this "Trophies Studies" led to one major discovery - PREEXISTENCE of real Mountevans Belts. Those finds are historical, credible evidences that Morell Belts weren't in fact Lord Mountevans Belts as they were billed for decades, but rather, the belts given to champion wrestlers who competed under the Mountevans Rules. Though originally in circa 1950 there were very few actual Lord Mount Evans Silver Belts produced and awarded champions like Geo Busfield, Alan Colbeck and Ernie Baldwin.
Anglo Italian is dead right, putting into a concise and precise way what many of us have been getting at Ruslan, but not saying half so well. I think you're starting to understand that these titles and knock out tournaments had little value. The promoters would say anything to get bums on seats. I went to one show where the newspaper advert listed a match as a title match. The poster listed two different matches as title matches. On the night all three matches took place but not one title was ever mentioned.
What you have discovered, and it is of value, is that at the shows many of us went to the promoters did use some historical belts (not that I remember seeing any belts other than Maxines). But other than the Mountevans champions the titles those belts were linked with were or little significance.
I am not so sure this was an annual tournament. If something worked, the promoters repeated it quickly.
This would explain why there was no reporting of this tournament in the wrestling press. Posters above saw the tournament at different venues ... it probably took place frequently, or erratically.
If it did have any importance, the weight categories would have had to have been established much more authoritatively.
Four and Eight-wrestler tournaments abounded in Dale Martin Land and sometimes they rustled up a trophy and gave the venue's name as a title. These were one-offs and not reported.
Promoters kept a tight lid on their best ideas. Wryton was simply a promotion with a narrow "catchment" area, and Riley and Wright and Rylands could personally oversee most bills, and travel the belt safely.
This 1973 programme speaks of first round and quarter finals. In fact we have two pairs: Royal v Martinelli and Street v Pallo, BUT there's additional info on the poster - winner of the two above contests to meet....and we know winners were Martinelli and Pallo...so they met, and Martinelli won...then what about Rocco v Conneely. Dear Friends please help to understand that.
Hack, quick question was it solely Arthur Wright's Promotion from the get go, or there were some other individuals involved in the establishment of the Wryton pro-wrestling company.
Thanks Hack appreciate, great info as always. So he was Mancunian, Hyde (historical Cheshire). They had great Lancashire Wrestling Traditions by the way...Hyde and Dukinfield Area was among the best ever.
Arthur Wright wasn't a wrestler. He was a business man from Manchester with an interest in wrestling. He promoted his first show, at Hyde in Cheshire, during the Second World War.
Wryton was established by Arthur Wright right after the war...that's to the best of my understanding. And they shortly introduced their own title The Wryton Belt, so I am assuming Wright was the owner of the belt in the late 1940's. Does anyone know Wright's background, where was he from? Was he a former wrestler like let's say Morell was, or he was just a manager, promoter.
Ruslan sorry wasnt on either bill,only saw belt accidently on a.sunday training session.incidently in the sixties and before as Bernard will confirm titles belts trophys meant something prior to crabtrees flowers and the same generic trophy renamed for every leisure centre.
I rembeabout 73 the old pay kiosk at wryton under the shelf were two belt boxes one empty othr contained very elaborate decorated belt i really wished id checked it out.but i was preoccupied every sunday morning
Hack...this cup is an amazing find...and special thanks to Lee for sharing it with heritage members fans of British pro wrestling...now it's a WRYTON BELT time...
Ruslan, are you going all weak at the knees? Thanks Lee. Brilliant.
Lee - this photo will cure Corona on this site!
Brilliant.
this is the trophy bobby ryan has
Dear bkendo1 I was able to find out that in 1947 Martin Conroy held the Wryton Belt, but looks like in the 1950's besides tradtional Wryton Belt there also has been Wryton Silver Trophy ( I am assuming it was a cup). I am attaching image of Mick McMichael with the Cup, do you recognize it?
Still I have to admit that all this "Trophies Studies" led to one major discovery - PREEXISTENCE of real Mountevans Belts. Those finds are historical, credible evidences that Morell Belts weren't in fact Lord Mountevans Belts as they were billed for decades, but rather, the belts given to champion wrestlers who competed under the Mountevans Rules. Though originally in circa 1950 there were very few actual Lord Mount Evans Silver Belts produced and awarded champions like Geo Busfield, Alan Colbeck and Ernie Baldwin.
Anglo Italian is dead right, putting into a concise and precise way what many of us have been getting at Ruslan, but not saying half so well. I think you're starting to understand that these titles and knock out tournaments had little value. The promoters would say anything to get bums on seats. I went to one show where the newspaper advert listed a match as a title match. The poster listed two different matches as title matches. On the night all three matches took place but not one title was ever mentioned.
What you have discovered, and it is of value, is that at the shows many of us went to the promoters did use some historical belts (not that I remember seeing any belts other than Maxines). But other than the Mountevans champions the titles those belts were linked with were or little significance.
I am not so sure this was an annual tournament. If something worked, the promoters repeated it quickly.
This would explain why there was no reporting of this tournament in the wrestling press. Posters above saw the tournament at different venues ... it probably took place frequently, or erratically.
If it did have any importance, the weight categories would have had to have been established much more authoritatively.
Four and Eight-wrestler tournaments abounded in Dale Martin Land and sometimes they rustled up a trophy and gave the venue's name as a title. These were one-offs and not reported.
Promoters kept a tight lid on their best ideas. Wryton was simply a promotion with a narrow "catchment" area, and Riley and Wright and Rylands could personally oversee most bills, and travel the belt safely.
Sorry to be a damp squib.
Another great Ron's find, 1961 Wryton KO Tourney.
This 1973 programme speaks of first round and quarter finals. In fact we have two pairs: Royal v Martinelli and Street v Pallo, BUT there's additional info on the poster - winner of the two above contests to meet....and we know winners were Martinelli and Pallo...so they met, and Martinelli won...then what about Rocco v Conneely. Dear Friends please help to understand that.
another question is how in fact the tourney worked...
Hack, quick question was it solely Arthur Wright's Promotion from the get go, or there were some other individuals involved in the establishment of the Wryton pro-wrestling company.
Thanks Hack appreciate, great info as always. So he was Mancunian, Hyde (historical Cheshire). They had great Lancashire Wrestling Traditions by the way...Hyde and Dukinfield Area was among the best ever.
Arthur Wright wasn't a wrestler. He was a business man from Manchester with an interest in wrestling. He promoted his first show, at Hyde in Cheshire, during the Second World War.
Wryton was established by Arthur Wright right after the war...that's to the best of my understanding. And they shortly introduced their own title The Wryton Belt, so I am assuming Wright was the owner of the belt in the late 1940's. Does anyone know Wright's background, where was he from? Was he a former wrestler like let's say Morell was, or he was just a manager, promoter.
Here's the link to the Steve Wright belt
https://heritagedocs.wixsite.com/talkwrestling/forum/memories-of-the-old-days/steve-wright-s-belt
I made a post last year it's called Steve Wright Belt. Please have a look at it. Let me know what you think.
Ruslan sorry wasnt on either bill,only saw belt accidently on a.sunday training session.incidently in the sixties and before as Bernard will confirm titles belts trophys meant something prior to crabtrees flowers and the same generic trophy renamed for every leisure centre.
Cant swear to it Ruslan but it was very similar if not this belt.
I rembeabout 73 the old pay kiosk at wryton under the shelf were two belt boxes one empty othr contained very elaborate decorated belt i really wished id checked it out.but i was preoccupied every sunday morning