I have a question. When in the mid 1930s Jack Sherry was called the world heavyweight wrestling champion in England which organization's world title it was, and what was the official name of theirs brand of pro wrestling?
Hack, question for you, my friend. Do you have in your collection any of the programmes from the early 50s on which Oakeley provides the list of all his heavyweight title holders 1930-50s? Thank you.
and another question is his Modern International CACC of the 1950s and Twentieth Century CACC the same exact brand which he used in his British Wrestling Association?
All Belle Vue 1938 was promoted by Kathleen Look. Oakeley was her technical advisor . He liked this term.
I don't believe that however the wrestling style was worded , that there was a scrap of difference between the wrestling from venue to venue.
The decision on what you call branding was based on how to satisfy the local councils that the product was not too extreme.
The original intention was All in Wrestling and this was banned in so many towns.
One way round it was Free Style with exhibitions to the council officials using "Pure Wrestlers" to get the ok.
I suspect that Oakeley thought his advertising was the most professional and pure.
The advertising in the papers was a lot less on the style but pushing the greatness of the competitors.
I wrote a whole series on 1930's BelleVue. Everyone of their wrestlers who was proclaimed to have a title was given that by Belle Vue. They were fiction.
It was a small world in the 1930's where most Manchester people short of National Service would have seldom travelled further than Blackpool.
Bankier saw the advantages with council control of keeping his brand Free Style Wrestling or similar.
The thirties at Belle Vue was not really there to fit with anything else , such as Liverpool or Newcastle. Under Miss Look you just got endless imaginary champions and all the hype. For at least some of the time Oakeley was an advisor , but he was not allowed to deal with the press and was kept in the background.
It was Oakeley's idea that Sherry could come up with some sort of believable claim to a world title and also that Garnon was a British Champion.
Assirati and Doug Clark would not co-operate with any of this stuff so Belle Vue went it's own way. After making top money in Australia Clark came back and was prepared to work four bouts with Sherry to a similar script to what he had done in Australia with Tom Lurich.
Good money , end of his career , he was finally happy to sell.
Doug Clarks manager was Relwyskow. His "world title " was a set up using Gerstmans.
thank you, what a fantastic those times were then...Manchester isn't that far from Leeds, is it? I cannot judge who was the best choice Sherry or Clark...one was a foreigner another a local sports celebrity. I cannot judge about their actual in-ring quality, I need to watch more videos of them actually to make a fair judgement as to which of the two was more fun to watch!
Thank you Ron, Oakeley's company in the 50s was called the British Wrestling Association and his brand of pro wrestling he called the Modern International CACC.
But that was in the 50s. I am not sure what it was in the 30s at Belle Vue because that is where I believe Sherry won his world title claims. And if Oakeley backed him...then they had 2 world champs in North West at the same time Clark and Sherry. I am sure those were different companies and obviously two different brands. As for the 30s XX Century CACC wasn't it Bankier's company/brand?
thank you for sharing this Ron, brilliant as always, much appreciated. I have a quick question for you, whose company/brand was the Twentieth Century Catch As Catch Can Wrestling? Thank you.
Hack, question for you, my friend. Do you have in your collection any of the programmes from the early 50s on which Oakeley provides the list of all his heavyweight title holders 1930-50s? Thank you.
and another question is his Modern International CACC of the 1950s and Twentieth Century CACC the same exact brand which he used in his British Wrestling Association?
Twentieth Century Catch-as-catch-can Wrestling Association, 1938.
World Champion: Jack Sherry.
The following list of British champions:
Heavyweight - Michael O’Leary (Northern Ireland);
Lightweight - Robert Cook (London);
Middleweight - Billy Riley (Wigan);
Welterweight - Harold Angus.
Need help whose champs were these pro wrestlers?
And I know nothing about O'Leary.
Thank You.
All Belle Vue 1938 was promoted by Kathleen Look. Oakeley was her technical advisor . He liked this term.
I don't believe that however the wrestling style was worded , that there was a scrap of difference between the wrestling from venue to venue.
The decision on what you call branding was based on how to satisfy the local councils that the product was not too extreme.
The original intention was All in Wrestling and this was banned in so many towns.
One way round it was Free Style with exhibitions to the council officials using "Pure Wrestlers" to get the ok.
I suspect that Oakeley thought his advertising was the most professional and pure.
The advertising in the papers was a lot less on the style but pushing the greatness of the competitors.
I wrote a whole series on 1930's BelleVue. Everyone of their wrestlers who was proclaimed to have a title was given that by Belle Vue. They were fiction.
It was a small world in the 1930's where most Manchester people short of National Service would have seldom travelled further than Blackpool.
Ron, this is the one I was talking about the 20th c. CACC. I am sure you can help me with this regard, whose brand/promotion was this?
Bankier saw the advantages with council control of keeping his brand Free Style Wrestling or similar.
The thirties at Belle Vue was not really there to fit with anything else , such as Liverpool or Newcastle. Under Miss Look you just got endless imaginary champions and all the hype. For at least some of the time Oakeley was an advisor , but he was not allowed to deal with the press and was kept in the background.
It was Oakeley's idea that Sherry could come up with some sort of believable claim to a world title and also that Garnon was a British Champion.
Assirati and Doug Clark would not co-operate with any of this stuff so Belle Vue went it's own way. After making top money in Australia Clark came back and was prepared to work four bouts with Sherry to a similar script to what he had done in Australia with Tom Lurich.
Good money , end of his career , he was finally happy to sell.
Doug Clarks manager was Relwyskow. His "world title " was a set up using Gerstmans.
That belt was made for the occasion.
Here is an example of what you speak about Ruslan.
I don't see this as a registered company , but I guess it could be.
I think it was just another wrestling show , but arranged by Oakeley who was an outcast in the game.
So Oakeley was trying to make it look like he had the most official and professional shows that your money could buy.
These were a few showcase shows that fooled nobody. He was small in promotional terms and this effort died a death.
All the usual marketing nonsense that had been used in the 1930's where everybody was a champion. Pure nonsense.
https://wrestlingheritage.co.uk/jack-sherry/
Sherry worked for Oakeley. Oakeley may have pretended that there was an organisation but it was just Oakeley and a figment of his imagination.
Below , there is no "Branding" as you want to call it. And Just plain old World Champion.
He was simply Oakeleys World Champ.
Of course Bankier argued the same as what I say and got sued for it by Sherry and Garnon as well. I think the courts were actually fooled too.
It cost bankier a lot of money.