I saw "The Count" against Big Duddy at Doncaster.Count was a sub for Nagasaki.He was well "on top" when he Lifted Big D up to slam him,but to quote the MC (Big D's little Brother)"The ref as stopped contest as The Count as dun is back".He didn't look to far gone to me then.Big D looked knackered at the end!
The point about Ct Bartelli going on too long isn't his age. It's that he seemed genuinely to believe he was wonderful and invincible and that his opponents owed him their livings. This made it very awkward for professional opponents, such as Barnes and many others, to make a go of things. An aged wrestler can work if he builds into his show the recognition that he is long in the tooth. Bartelli wanted to be Wonder Boy when knocking on seventy. He may have been around for fifty years but, for first-timers attending, this spectacle was not convincing.
Apollo Promotions were run by Blue Angel Jim Stockdale, who is on the bill. The Sons of the Ghoul were an ad hoc pair hooded up for that night. Jack LaRue was a wrestler from Thornaby, Harry Rose. Like Graham I've also believed Max Kemp was Max Raeger, and this would fit in with Blackburn Roberts as his opponent, but I've also been told there was a Max Kemp in Manchester.
The old bills like Ron's ooze authenticity. The 1962 Dale Martin ones are all good. Matches where you would wonder at the outcome. It all went down hill in 70s. To Bartelli v Barnes. I can't think of anything worse. Sorry MM.
@adrianpollard.shangri-la I remember seeing Count Bartelli versus Bobby Barnes on a Wryton televised show and it worked well. As you say. "masters of all the wrestling holds". I came as near as dammit to refereeing this match-up many years ago at The Diamond Lil Showbar in Morecambe only on that night the promoter and the Count's opponent was Bobby Barron and I counted them out for brawling outside the ring. Bartelli took on his fair share of lighter wrestlers. I also promoted him at Hill Top British Legion in West Bromwich against Ian Wilson, saw him at Belle Vue versus Marty Jones and have noticed from posters on this site that he has faced Brian Maxine. Barnes has also worked with all weights. I recall watching him at Belle Vue against Dave Ramsden and, again from this site, see that he has faced the likes of John Elijah and Kendo Nagasaki at the other end of the scale.
Two good posters with which to celebrate my birthday!
On our TV screens, on this day in 1966:-
Light-Heavyweight: Dave Morgan (Cardiff) v Frank O'Donnell (Donegal)
Heavyweight: Yasso Chati Yokouchi (Tokyo, Japan) v Dave Larsen (Winchester)
Today would have been the birthday of Ring Gladiator Tony Rowney.
I saw "The Count" against Big Duddy at Doncaster.Count was a sub for Nagasaki.He was well "on top" when he Lifted Big D up to slam him,but to quote the MC (Big D's little Brother)"The ref as stopped contest as The Count as dun is back".He didn't look to far gone to me then.Big D looked knackered at the end!
The point about Ct Bartelli going on too long isn't his age. It's that he seemed genuinely to believe he was wonderful and invincible and that his opponents owed him their livings. This made it very awkward for professional opponents, such as Barnes and many others, to make a go of things. An aged wrestler can work if he builds into his show the recognition that he is long in the tooth. Bartelli wanted to be Wonder Boy when knocking on seventy. He may have been around for fifty years but, for first-timers attending, this spectacle was not convincing.
Apollo Promotions were run by Blue Angel Jim Stockdale, who is on the bill. The Sons of the Ghoul were an ad hoc pair hooded up for that night. Jack LaRue was a wrestler from Thornaby, Harry Rose. Like Graham I've also believed Max Kemp was Max Raeger, and this would fit in with Blackburn Roberts as his opponent, but I've also been told there was a Max Kemp in Manchester.
Working overseas on this day in history, Mr. Scotland himself, big Ian Campbell drew with Herman Iffland, in Krefeld, Germany, on this day in 1965.
On our TV screens, on this day in 1963: -
Josef Kovacs (2) v Hassan Ali Bey (1)
Terry Downs (2) v Colin Joynson (1)
Nice to see our old friend Jimmy Boy Devlin as a "Teenage Idol"!
Cheers
The old bills like Ron's ooze authenticity. The 1962 Dale Martin ones are all good. Matches where you would wonder at the outcome. It all went down hill in 70s. To Bartelli v Barnes. I can't think of anything worse. Sorry MM.
A couple of 1962 shows; Kwango-McManus again:
This one really pushes Billy Moores , one of the guys who did real wrestling in the Fields.
On This ONETH of JUNE at The CORN EXCHANGE-IPSWICH-A Couple of
Rarely Seen Match-Ups are Featured!:- TONY ST.CLAIR versus ED WENSOR
and One Bout I would have Loved to have Seen!!-- But Sadly Never Did!! -
COUNT BARTELLI against BOBBY BARNES!!- Been Trying to Imagine in My
Mind How That Contest would have 'Worked-Out'??
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