After all this time Ruslan never fails to amaze. Okay, by the 1980s I had lost interest but I knew a heavyweight championship belt in the 1960s and it wasn't like this.
Then Ruslan shows us the photographic evidence of Tiger Dalibar Singh wearing the belt. Incredible Ruslan. Not being a romantic like Ruslan I think it more likely this was just a cheapskate way of avoiding buying a new belt.
I wonder if this belt was still owned by the Relwyskows and only used on their shows and publicity shots. Was a different belt used by Max Crabtree on the other Joint Promotions shows? That's a serious question, and would bring in to doubt use of the phrase "symbolic of the British heavyweight championship" as Relwyskow was a small part of Joint. And I'm certainly not questioning Ruslan's research.
Don't think your opinion about the pay won't be popular Ruslan. I would think most reading this forum know such figures must be fantasy. In 1960 a working man would be grateful to earn £10 a week, and many of us will remember queing up at the teachers desk once a week to hand over two half crowns for another week's school dinners.
in the early 1900s in average wrestlers were paid a crown (silver 5 shillings coin) per match. wrestlers of some fame obviously were paid more, but again it was very little money in compare to what the organizers were making on gate receipts and betting control.
Peter, you are welcome. That all makes sense. The ultimate goal of my studies was to separate the reality from the myths and legends which surrounded the Lancashire pro wrestling stage (forefather of the modern pro wrestling) for so long.
Peter, thanks for your question. My "opinion" is not ever going to be popular, yet I have to say that it is based on 15 years of my research and collecting materials (documented history of Lancashire pro wrestling since 1820 and even of Lancashire up and down fighting which predated catch as the only pro combative sport in East Lancashire) shows that all those "hundreds of pounds at stake" and etc. always was nothing more than just a part of the "advertisement" campaign of the upcoming event with only one purpose - to attract betters and try to manipulate them. Organizers of the event (historically venues owners) hired wrestlers and paid them couple of shillings a match in the 1800s, that is all it was.
SaxonWolf thanks so much for your kind words, appreciate.
Ron, there's no magic, just patience, and daily studies, and communication (thousands of emails a day as you noticed once my dear friend). Success of such a work is always a team effort. Team work this is what I enjoy the most. This is what I know for sure, the overall success of any studies is in sharing info with the people who share your interests, encouraging them to research more and share, and this exchange of the info makes it possible to achieve some good results.
For this particular post/research I am very thankful to: Chris Matthews, Peter Thompson and Darren Ward.
After all this time Ruslan never fails to amaze. Okay, by the 1980s I had lost interest but I knew a heavyweight championship belt in the 1960s and it wasn't like this.
Then Ruslan shows us the photographic evidence of Tiger Dalibar Singh wearing the belt. Incredible Ruslan. Not being a romantic like Ruslan I think it more likely this was just a cheapskate way of avoiding buying a new belt.
I wonder if this belt was still owned by the Relwyskows and only used on their shows and publicity shots. Was a different belt used by Max Crabtree on the other Joint Promotions shows? That's a serious question, and would bring in to doubt use of the phrase "symbolic of the British heavyweight championship" as Relwyskow was a small part of Joint. And I'm certainly not questioning Ruslan's research.
Don't think your opinion about the pay won't be popular Ruslan. I would think most reading this forum know such figures must be fantasy. In 1960 a working man would be grateful to earn £10 a week, and many of us will remember queing up at the teachers desk once a week to hand over two half crowns for another week's school dinners.
Great stuff Ruslan.
in the early 1900s in average wrestlers were paid a crown (silver 5 shillings coin) per match. wrestlers of some fame obviously were paid more, but again it was very little money in compare to what the organizers were making on gate receipts and betting control.
Would the winner of the 1909 contest really be paid a salary of £100 per week?
"Russian Concussion"
Fantastic!
I don't know how he does it.
Lovely stuff as always Ruslan, great pictures.
Mike Marino held all most famous Relwyskow Family belts among them the 1909 Holy Grail of British Wrestling.
Belle Vue Open To All Heavyweight Tournament
The Relwyskow Championship Belt
Sept 25th - Nov 27th, 1965
1st Round
Sept 25, BELLE VUE
1st Heat of First Round
D.Joyce 2-0 J.Rawlings
Geoghegan bt Leidermann
Joyce stpd Geoghegan
Oct 2, BELLE VUE
2nd Heat of First Round
Vachon 1-0 Pierlot
Davies 1-0 Verna
Davies bt Vachon
Oct 10, BELLE VUE
3rd Heat of First Round
Mitchell bt Kumali
The Mask bt Nelson-DISQ
Mitchell bt The Mask
Oct 16, BELLE VUE
4th Heat of First Round
Wall stpd DaSilva
Cox bt Hussey-DISQ
Cox stpd Wall
Oct 23, BELLE VUE
5th Heat of First Round
Tibor bt Allan
Walsh bt F.Sullivan
Walsh bt Tibor
Oct 30, BELLE VUE
6th Heat of First Round
Zaranoff kod Cassio;
B.Joyce bt B.Rawlings
B.Joyce kod Zaranoff
Nov 6, BELLE VUE
Quearter-finals
G.Davies kod D.Joyce
B.Joyce bt N. Walsh
D.Mitchell stpd J. Cox
Semi-finals
B.Joyce kod J.Cox
G.Davies bt D.Mitchell
Final
Gwyn Davies beat Billy Joyce
The 1965 International Heavyweight Championship KO Tourney for this Belt at Belle Vue, Manchester, England
Tiger Dalibar Singh - British Heavyweight Champion Wrestler, 1980s.
The reference to the origin of this magnificent trophy.