a lot has been spoken about a certain "drugged up" american going off script at the albert hall and giving big daddy a hiding. what really happened and was much damage done to big daddy
What an interesting thread, and good that it reached a conclusion. There was mention of an expose by Adrian Street. Does anyone know anything about this?
I saw Colt live several time for both Joint and Wrestling Enterprise - VERY entertaining. Also talked to him in the bar at Lichfield Civic, quite a character.
Bob Bartholomew was also at the RAH show (writer of Top of the Bill) and a regular Facebook user.
He said they were clearly under the influence of something and I'm sure he said he did spit at Daddy.
Steve Grey was proffesional enough to make a good job of it
and so another urban legends if proved false.. shucks. now i can rest in peace then saddle up more horse and go off into a glorious sunset. all is peace in the world
Viola! The tale reaches it's conclusion. Thanks John. Like many wrestling fables it was blown out of proportion from the beginning due to sour grapes. Shame this wasn't quoshed in Ryan Dane's book. it's also a shame that Mr. Danes never picked up upon Mark Rocco's tale of Shirley flooring an antagonistic/sarcastic Geoff Capes.
Here's what Grey had to say when I interviewed him for FSM:While it was either coincidence or a natural result of working so many bouts, Grey did seem to find himself involved in some unusually memorable matches. One such affair came at the Royal Albert Hall where he teamed with Big Daddy against the Black Baron and Chris "American Dream" Colt. The latter team was accompanied by singer Joe Cocker and Grey recalls a surprising lack of interest in Cocker by wrestling fans. More notably, both Cocker and Colt appeared to be under the influence of some substance or another.
"They were both slumped in the dressing room, which I had a very dim view of. [Promoter] Max Crabtree didn't look pleased, and that's an understatement." While Colt's condition in the ring was noticeable to the audience, Grey recalls he was able to work the match. "There was nothing sensational or grim, and he was fine to work with me, but he definitely didn't want to do anything with Daddy."
That would depend on wether Colt's rehashing of the tale was accurate due to his mental/physical condition at the time of the incident. "Perhaps" Mr. Dixon heard the full extent of the tale from wrestlers/fans that were actually there. I would imagine Chris Colt mentioned the details of his sacking from Joint to Adrian Street when he joned the Independent circuit as whilst there they formed a version of 'The Hell's Angels' tag team. But with Adrian Street's loathing for the Crabtrees i might take what he says about them with a pinch of salt! I still think Steve Grey is the man to ask.
I did actually write to Ryan Danes some time ago, author of "Who's The Daddy" via the publisher asking if he knew any further details of the Chris Colt incident but i never got a reply. Although I think if Mr. Danes had knowledge of the tag he may/would have included the story in his book, as both the Assiratti and Streiger tales are included.
Apologies Matey, the inceident I read about involved Hans Streiger, so a different inciedent. However it does illustrate what alanapaily was saying about people twisiting the truth.
On this occassion, and evidenced in Daddy's own private film collection, Ryan Danes states that Daddy was in a lumberjack ladder match with Scrubber Daley. Streiger hadn't been paid by Max. Rumour had it that Daddy stood in the shadows while streiger head butted bot Max and Brian and roughed up Black Jack Mulligan. But the fim showed Daddy taking Streiger by the scruff of the neck and escorting him out.
Daddy was an easy target, partly because his legacy was tarnished by the Daddy Roadshow and people seem to want to jump on the bandwagon when it comes to critisizing him.
When I was teaching at Hilltop High School in West Bromwich in the early eighties I arranged to take a party of fifth formers (sixteen year olds) to the Alexandra Theatre in Birmingham to see Mandy Rice-Davies starring in a touring version of Agatha Christie's "The Hollow". She spoke her lines clearly and didn't bump into the furniture. The headmaster, George Harris, was very easygoing and had no qualms about me taking them to see this beautiful lady. She seemed to know how to make the most of her notoriety whereas Christine Keeler seemed less worldly.
I don't know his real name but I also recall in my summer visits to Rhyl seeing a drag act at The Queen's who went on as Randy Mice-Davies. He always used to start his routine by saying, "I was in my local last night, "The Cock and Comfort". Mind you, there wasn't much comfort!"
but really happened to shirley, how did they stop the bout, what was audience reaction, did any of the other wrestlers come to his rescue lead by run-tin-tin. did hack choke on a pukka pie
What an interesting thread, and good that it reached a conclusion. There was mention of an expose by Adrian Street. Does anyone know anything about this?
I saw Colt live several time for both Joint and Wrestling Enterprise - VERY entertaining. Also talked to him in the bar at Lichfield Civic, quite a character.
Bob Bartholomew was also at the RAH show (writer of Top of the Bill) and a regular Facebook user.
He said they were clearly under the influence of something and I'm sure he said he did spit at Daddy.
Steve Grey was proffesional enough to make a good job of it
Another bit of wrestling codology demystified. Thanks John.
So it sounds like not much action with Big Daddy in that match, hence it got pulled?
and so another urban legends if proved false.. shucks. now i can rest in peace then saddle up more horse and go off into a glorious sunset. all is peace in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjCWIdo07zU
Viola! The tale reaches it's conclusion. Thanks John. Like many wrestling fables it was blown out of proportion from the beginning due to sour grapes. Shame this wasn't quoshed in Ryan Dane's book. it's also a shame that Mr. Danes never picked up upon Mark Rocco's tale of Shirley flooring an antagonistic/sarcastic Geoff Capes.
Here's what Grey had to say when I interviewed him for FSM: While it was either coincidence or a natural result of working so many bouts, Grey did seem to find himself involved in some unusually memorable matches. One such affair came at the Royal Albert Hall where he teamed with Big Daddy against the Black Baron and Chris "American Dream" Colt. The latter team was accompanied by singer Joe Cocker and Grey recalls a surprising lack of interest in Cocker by wrestling fans. More notably, both Cocker and Colt appeared to be under the influence of some substance or another.
"They were both slumped in the dressing room, which I had a very dim view of. [Promoter] Max Crabtree didn't look pleased, and that's an understatement." While Colt's condition in the ring was noticeable to the audience, Grey recalls he was able to work the match. "There was nothing sensational or grim, and he was fine to work with me, but he definitely didn't want to do anything with Daddy."
Mr Colt with his Tag Team Champs Belt,when he was in the California Hells Angels,back in the USA.
Convenient for Mr Street,and Mr Colt to team up
That would depend on wether Colt's rehashing of the tale was accurate due to his mental/physical condition at the time of the incident. "Perhaps" Mr. Dixon heard the full extent of the tale from wrestlers/fans that were actually there. I would imagine Chris Colt mentioned the details of his sacking from Joint to Adrian Street when he joned the Independent circuit as whilst there they formed a version of 'The Hell's Angels' tag team. But with Adrian Street's loathing for the Crabtrees i might take what he says about them with a pinch of salt! I still think Steve Grey is the man to ask.
just had a mind meld, would our brian of birkenhead know as he was supposed taken colt on immediately after the incident
am i right in assuming this is all an urban myth and nothing happened in front of 6000 people at the royal albert hall
I did actually write to Ryan Danes some time ago, author of "Who's The Daddy" via the publisher asking if he knew any further details of the Chris Colt incident but i never got a reply. Although I think if Mr. Danes had knowledge of the tag he may/would have included the story in his book, as both the Assiratti and Streiger tales are included.
Apologies Matey, the inceident I read about involved Hans Streiger, so a different inciedent. However it does illustrate what alanapaily was saying about people twisiting the truth.
On this occassion, and evidenced in Daddy's own private film collection, Ryan Danes states that Daddy was in a lumberjack ladder match with Scrubber Daley. Streiger hadn't been paid by Max. Rumour had it that Daddy stood in the shadows while streiger head butted bot Max and Brian and roughed up Black Jack Mulligan. But the fim showed Daddy taking Streiger by the scruff of the neck and escorting him out.
Daddy was an easy target, partly because his legacy was tarnished by the Daddy Roadshow and people seem to want to jump on the bandwagon when it comes to critisizing him.
When I was teaching at Hilltop High School in West Bromwich in the early eighties I arranged to take a party of fifth formers (sixteen year olds) to the Alexandra Theatre in Birmingham to see Mandy Rice-Davies starring in a touring version of Agatha Christie's "The Hollow". She spoke her lines clearly and didn't bump into the furniture. The headmaster, George Harris, was very easygoing and had no qualms about me taking them to see this beautiful lady. She seemed to know how to make the most of her notoriety whereas Christine Keeler seemed less worldly.
I don't know his real name but I also recall in my summer visits to Rhyl seeing a drag act at The Queen's who went on as Randy Mice-Davies. He always used to start his routine by saying, "I was in my local last night, "The Cock and Comfort". Mind you, there wasn't much comfort!"
but really happened to shirley, how did they stop the bout, what was audience reaction, did any of the other wrestlers come to his rescue lead by run-tin-tin. did hack choke on a pukka pie
even gladys the impaler
Even Mandy Rice-Davies
as the famous mandy smith would say "they would say that"
I will have to look it up again, but in the book about Daddy, it was claimed that the incident was greatly exagerated. I will try and find the quote.