What happened to king Ben is he still alive and also he had a son who started wrestling as tag team with his dad.I think they came from Wigan and was under contract with best wryton promotions.How many more father+son tag teams were there ?
frank thomas
King Ben was one of my favourite wrestlers, he came from silsden in West yorkshire, his son was Mark, who wrestled under the name "Kid Mc coy" think he was british lightweight champion. They also wrestled one on one in a TV knockout tournament which was a clean scientific match with "no angle" with regards to other father & son tag teams, there were a few around. The most famous being Jackie "Mr TV" pallo, and his son JJ (Jackie junior) Jackie also said in his book that he insisted on being billed as "Pallo & Son" as I said earlier, there were a few father & son teams around, but it was said by Jackie that they tended to be billed as an "elder brother" in order not to make "the old man" look "too old"..
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SaxonWolf
Not sure about "tag team" but Les Kellet was the father of Dave Barrie (who died before Les, which must be a terrible thing for any parent) and I think we all thought at one time (on this site, and others) that Robby Baron was related in some way to Mick McManus? (nephew?)
frank thomas
Saw Les tag once with Dave Barrie. I think against the Broughton Rangers, Johnny South & Paul Mitchell
Hack
Yes I think father and sons were billed as brothers to disguise the age of the father. Vic Stewart was the father of Pete but they were advertised as brothers.
John
In the late seventies, the Wensors (Ed and Gary) were a tag team and were billed as brothers but I think it was discussed on this website once that Ed may well have been Gary's father. I can't remember if anyone ever came up with an answer to that question.
Anglo Italian
Well, it's professional wrestling. So it's fair to assume that if they were described as Brothers, they may well not have been.
But I do think the Mitchells were brothers.
We have spent a lot of time speculating as to any baby Bartellis, but never made any decisive progress.
For me, it's the hidden ones that are fun to unravel, such as Kellett and Barrie.
I remember my shock when I discovered Wild Angus's sone was such a clean shaven clean wrestling goodie.
Let's not forget Wayne Bridges' son who passed away very prematurely. Dean Briscoe.
Roy Bull Davis and Skull Murphy.
I always thought Mike Marino looked like someone who had a wrestling son, but have never identified one.
Just a few.
Bernard Hughes
The Rawlings family from Stockton , were I believe, father and 2sons.
All appeared at Newcastle at times.
Dave Sutherland
Correct Bernard
Hack
Jack and Dominic Pye. I don't think they were ever known as anything other than father and son.
Fred
What about jimmy hussey and son rollerball Marc Rocco I think they were father and son but don't know if they ever paired up for tag team action.
Bernard Hughes
Hi Hack. Jack and Dominic Pye were not the only wrestling connections in that family.
Some brothers got involved too.
Bernard Hughes
Hi Fred. Possibly Jim Hussey was getting a little too old, when Mark came into the professional game.
Fred
Yes Bernard come to think about it your probebly right as when Marc came on the wrestling scene his dad Jim was the owner of a pub in kearsley near bolton.
Ron Historyo
Rocco certainly must have travelled a lot with dad in his early years so the opportunity was there.
Having said that I can't remember them tagging .
Anglo Italian
I confirm that in 1970 and 1971 Mark Rocco and Jim Hussey invariably appeared on the same bills together, as they also toured on DM bills.
Tom H
Bob Archer O'Brien had two sons Bob and Chris Anthony who tagged together. But I don't know if Bob Archer O'Brien and Bob Anthony worked together.
Ron Historyo
For more than a decade Lew Faulkner had ample opportunity to tag with son Bert and even could have gone in with Vic.
frank thomas
Remember seeing a Joe Pye at Liverpool Stadium, he was rumoured to be a nephew of Jack, had the look, black tights, white boots, black slick backed hair. But alas none of the skill! Honey Boy Zimba threw him from pillar to post!
Hack
The Joe Pye you mention here is in the A-Z Frank, as are all the Pyes. A sad story about Jack. He made an ill advised comeback around 1970. I interviewed him for a magazine. Everything seemed fine. It was all very complimentary. Then at the last minute Jack said he didn't want it publishing, that he was finished with wrestling. Other than that he wouldn't give any reason for his change of mind.
ballymoss
The fighting Fishers were a well known wrestling family of which easily the best known of the seven brothers were Charlie and Arthur. They were a useful tag team combination, who could easily make the switch from "blue eye" to "heel". Charlie who went on to become a well known MC, had a son who wrestled for a short time in the 1960's as Brian Sparks, but then like so many faded away.
Anglo Italian
SaxonWolf
The Taylor familly have not been mentioned yet have they?
Hack
No neither of them.Taylors of Bradford and Taylors of Accrington.
College Boy Charlie Law and Len Britton were brothers but don't know if they tagged together. Mike Dallas had a brother, or so we were told. Was it Peter?
Is it accepted Johnny and Peter Wilson were brothers?
Debate or not , rest assured Anglo that Lew Faulkner married Miss Armstrong in 1931 and registered the birth of children , Herbert 1932 , Dorothy 1935 and Victor 1944.
"There's no debate" ... doesn't close the debate like that, Hack. As I wrote, lots of fans have doubts. There certainly has been debate and it does continue.
My soliloquy merely describes briefly doubts lots of fans have had over many years. Like whether Kendo Nagasaki really was Japanese or Doctor Death from Hollywood, as I wrote.
I don't think anyone needs to get tetchy about it as Bert will have been used to these comments over the last 60 years.
The doubts and debates are the stuff of wrestling discussion.
There's no debate, it's your soliloquy Anglo Italian. The debate about the Royals ended ages ago, if it ever existed that is. Even the birth records were uncovered by Ron if I remember right. Good grief, we'll be saying Dwight J Ingleburgh wasn't American. Same with the Wensors. Gary talked of his brother at the time of Ed's death, even in wrestling that would be stretching things.
I thought we had also confirmed (by someone who knew them) that Gary and Ed Wensor were brothers?
Anglo I agree totally different visually however personality wise so similar thoughts and ideas and standards identical,I was by a man who knew them as youths and greatly admired their dad.The people of Bolton were rightly proud of them and still are recently discussed in detail on a Bwfc fan site.Bert appeared.shy and Vic appeared to be the opposite but it just wasn't so out of the ring.I understand the scepticism in a game where a German came from Derbyshire and a cowboy came from miles planting,but they were indeed aromas brothers.
There has been ongoing debate amongst lots of fans. Probably the one key feature that does relate them is their very similar wrestling style.
But the sceptics have pointed over the years to totally dissimilar looks and bodily features. Even personality - Vic seemed to smile for them both. Crikey, they even have different ring-names! Not a jot points to their being brothers apart from what the promoters told us. I certainly can understand the sceptics wondering. And it would be a shallow wrestling fan who believes what the promoters tell us: were Vic & Peter really the Stewart Brothers? Gary & Ed Wensor?
I do think we need to think for ourselves as we explore, and not just accept that Dr Death was from Hollywood. It's our duty!
But in this case, we probably have to consider also that there are all types of possible brotherly relations and that would certainly be private business and I wouldn't want to go there.
Anglo there can't be a debate about Bert and Vic they were brothers.
I think you are quite right, Beancounter. Four eyebows in perfect harmony.
Back to the smoke and mirrors of pro wrestling:
if they told us they were brothers, they probably weren't.
they often disguised fathers and sons.
I might stretch a point and concede that the Borgs might have been brothers.
But the Wensors and the Royals: great ongoing debate about these.
We’re Don Mendoza and Al Miquet father and son? I remember during, 1963 or 1964, Mendoza, towards the end of his career, losing 2-1 on TV to Sean Regan. Soon afterwards Regan appeared on Hughie Green’s Double Your Money and, egged on by the audience, demonstrated a body slam lift on Hughie. (and I mean that most sincerely folks) By then Miquet was an established wrestler in his own right and I also recall a brilliant televised 1-1 draw over 8 rounds with Johnny Eagles. Apologies if I’m in error regarding the relationship.
Hi Hack, I saw Charlie Green Snr. a couple of times in my younger life.
I remember that in the first fight, he used the ropes too often, did not break soon enough for Les Kellett's wishes and got disqualified.
Rope use was not allowed in the early days of Lord Mount-Evans rules.
Jack Dempsey and his son, Michael Dempsey.
Charlie Green Sr and Charlie Green Jr.
A couple more:
Alan and Adam Kilby
The Knight family
I can’t see any mention of the Borg twins (Ignatious and Tony) who were apparently very good solo wrestlers before teaming up as tag team partners.
There was also Tibor and Peter Szakacs who were originally from Hungary befpre they both settled in the Uk.
Good call Bernard: Arthur, Cliff and Jack.
Didn't Cliff Beaumont have a brother or 2 that used a different surname?