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The first masked wrestler in British wrestling history? (1876)
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Phil Lions
Jul 31, 2022
Definitely not Bauer. He was in North America in 1876. Also, there were three masked wrestlers in Paris in 1867 (the original L'Homme Masque, another L'Homme Masque at a rival arena, and a red mask). In terms of being the original L'Homme Masque Bauer was just one of several suspects and the only reason why he's in the conversion is because Bauer himself claimed to have been the masked wrestler. However, given how much of a carny Bauer was I don't know if I would believe anything he ever said. A while back I wrote an article about 19th century French pro wrestling. Here's what I had to say about the original L'Homme Masque there: "So, who were all these masked wrestlers in Paris in 1867-68? Which wrestlers were under the hoods? Unfortunately, there's no way to know for certain. There have been a number of names suggested over the years, but we'll never know for sure who it really was. Marseille Jr., Falcet, Folliet, Alfred Perrier, ​​​Professor Deligne, Andre Christol and Theobaud Bauer are some of the suspected names, but the main suspect seems to be a guy by the name of Charavay. Even contemporary 1867 French newspapers from several days after the first appearance of L'Homme Masque mention him as potentially being the person behind the mask and say that he was a photographer by trade who was friends with the directors of the arena. According to Professor Edmond Desbonnet, however, the matches at the Athletic Arena were actually under the direction of Charavay (i.e. Charavay was doing the matchmaking). Desbonnet then says that the masked wrestler was a masseur named Charvet, but I think this was likely a mistake. Sometimes Charavay's name would be mistakenly spelled as Charavet (even as early as September 1867) and I'm guessing Desbonnet made a similar mistake. But setting the contemporary 1867 press and Desbonnet's claims aside, another source also identified Charavay as the original masked man of Paris. In an April 1877 story on the famous wrestler Faouet in "Le Petit Journal" newspaper it's stated that L'Homme Masque was sometimes the photographer Charavay, and sometimes Marseille Jr. Reportedly, the source of this information was Faouet himself, who wrestled the original L'Homme Masque back in 1867. We'll never know for sure who the original masked wrestler in 1867 was, nor the other two masked men after him, but Charavay is the best suspect." Sidenote: There's also this myth going around that L'Homme Masque in 1867 was the first masked wrestler in pro wrestling history. Not true. I've seen mentions of masked wrestlers in France as early as 1848. The original L'Homme Masque was just the most famous one.
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Cowboy Jack Cassidy
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Something for the Big Daddy fans.
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Phil Lions
Nov 19, 2021
Good discussion so far. I enjoyed reading through all of that. Here's some of my thoughts on the topic. Martinson wasn't the European Heavyweight champion in 1959. And for the record, Miquet wasn't either. They were both former champions, but as best as I can tell they hadn't held the title for a number of years at that point. And just to clarify, I'm talking about the French version of the championship, i.e. the most established version of it in continental Europe. That version was also recognized in Switzerland for a good while. I've pieced together a history of that championship here: http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005411. It's not a full history by any means, but it's the best I've got. The only two Brits that I know for sure held the European Heavyweight Title (French version) were Bert Assirati in 1948-49 and Roy Bull Davis in 1965. It's possible there may have been a separate Belgian version of the European Heavyweight Title, but Belgium is extremely under researched so I have very little information as to what was happening there. For what it's worth I've seen no mentions of a Shirley Crabtree working there and I just did a quick search through a couple of Belgian newspaper archives, albeit very limited archives, and his name doesn't bring up any results. I've done a lot of research on Spain, France and Greece in particular and I haven't come across Shirley working any matches in those three countries. That's not to say he didn't wrestle in say France, for example, but I've seen no proof of it so far. I've posted a lot of the 1950s Palais des Sports Paris cards here: http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=005238. No Shirley Crabtree on any of the ones I have. That arena was damaged by a fire in May 1959 and was then demolished. A new Palais des Sports (better known today as Dome de Paris) opened doors the following year. My information on the shows there is more limited, but again - I've seen no mentions of Shirley wrestling at that venue either.
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Ian Campbell, Al Hayes, Billy Robinson and others in Barcelona in 1960
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Ian Campbell, Al Hayes, Billy Robinson and others in Barcelona in 1960
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Phil Lions
Jun 19, 2020
I'm reasonably sure the two group photos of the Scot trio were taken in Barcelona. Whenever a photo was taken by one of the local photographers he would be credited in the Barcelona paper as the one who took it. Such was the case with these two photos. The headshots were probably stock photos. The photo of the other trio is an interesting one. The photo was published in the paper on July 29 to promote the trio's matches on July 31, which ended up being the only time all three wrestled on the same Barcelona card. The same Spanish photographer mentioned above is credited as having taken the photo, which means that if he did indeed do so that must have happened on the previous Barcelona show (July 28). The report for that July 28 show doesn't mention them making an appearance on it, but the Spanish reports weren't very detailed so it's possible the trio did make an appearance that just went unreported in the paper. The Robinson photo popped up several times in the paper. Always listed as Bill Robinson (sometimes also spelled Robynson), the fine stylist from England. Having said all of that, I should point out that generally speaking Mundo Deportivo (the newspaper all these photos come from) was pretty good at listing the correct names on their wrestling photos. Pretty good, but not perfect. For example, during the course of a couple of years on a number of occasions they posted a photo of Al Hayes and identified it as Eric Husberg. I didn't catch this myself either until it was pointed out to me. The Hayes photos below are circa 1953. Also, SaxonWolf, Jose Arroyo is definitely not pictured anywhere in the photos above. He had a very distinctive head. He'd be easy to spot, if it was him.
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MASKS AND MEMORIES-L'ANGE BLANC!!
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MASKS AND MEMORIES-L'ANGE BLANC!!
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Phil Lions
Mar 26, 2020
Just came across this topic and since I've been doing some research on France I thought I'd add some context. The masked L'Ange Blanc (Francisco Pino Farina) made his debut in France either in late 1958 or right at the beginning of 1959. He was very popular in France indeed, but his run as a masked wrestler wasn't long. He lost his mask to L'Homme Masque (Gil Voiney) in March 1961. He continued wrestling unmasked in France after that and was still a headliner. On and off he worked in France until maybe the mid 70s. It's also worth pointing out that when L'Ange Blanc first appeared on the scene the big Paris events were held at Velodrome d'Hiver, which had a capacity of about 18,000, and therefore for the first few months of his run he performed in front of some pretty big crowds. He also headlined what may have been the final wrestling show at the venue in May 1959 against L'Homme Masque. Velodrome d'Hiver was damaged by a fire and then demolished in 1959. From 1960 onward the big Paris shows moved to the newly-built Dome de Paris, which had/has a capacity of about 4,600. Both venues were also known as Palais des Sports. In addition to my Paris research, lately I've also been doing some research on Barcelona, Spain, and a wrestler by the name of Pino from Valencia showed up in the Barcelona results in 1953. Given that Francisco Pino Farina was also from Valencia, the Pino in Barcelona in 1953 was probably him so that gives us somewhat of an idea when his career first got started. At the time he was just a midcarder, but he worked on some big shows at Pabellon del Deporte. In the summer months during the first part of the 50s there would be weekly shows at Pabellon del Deporte (which was for about 10,000 people), Plaza de toros de las Arenas (15,000) and Plaza de toros Monumental (20,000). A number of Brits worked on those shows too. Among them: Al Hayes, Bert Royal, Black Kwango, Butcher Johnson, Tommy Mann, etc.
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