Lol it's short for murdoch so dont worry.this was 1 poster of 4 that my papa kept in a box for many years ,I've recently had them framed because there in good condition I'll post pics of the other 3.
Please can you tell me the promoter involved with that write-up in the programme?
2 points stick out for me.
Different spelling for Manny Moritz.
On the 2nd page " the weight divisions were changed and standardised in KILOS.Norman Walsh became the British champion at the new 14 STONE
13 POUNDS limit of Mid Heavyweight".
Typical ! Change to KILOS but quote in Stones !
This is very interesting MM. At least I know that he went to South Africa, and that's as near the truth as you will get. As for the other stuff being discovered lately ,no-one will ever know the full truth.
It's amazing what turns up when You ,MM and Ron get together with a little help from Hack and Anglo.
I'm learning a lot more now than I ever did just in Newcastle.
We never got some of these publications . The only ones that I remember are "The Mat" and "The Ring" which was mainly about American boxers and wrestlers.
@bjh99 here's one for you Bernard. It gets confusing because the World & Euro championships were seemingly managed by Relwyskow, but they used the same belt for both. And in magazines they would show a picture of that belt and say it was the British championship too.
Hi All. As a better author than me said "curiouser and curiouser"
I think that the belt shown on many pictures on this thread is the British Mid Heavyweight title belt from JP.(Morrell originally).
Look at the belt in the photo of Norman in the A-Z. If that is the World belt then this one surely is the British belt. The two are different in size and shape.
Thanks MM, yes Norman was still (JP) British title holder until a car crash in 1965, according to Wikipedia. Marino did not get the belt until 1966.
No BERNARD-Our Friend NORMAN was still Working for JOINT in 1963!-Here we find him Below at My Beloved BELLE VUE against BILLY JOYCE in JUNE of that Year!
Seems NORMAN had to Retire from the Bout with the Scores at 1-1 leaving JOYCE
the Winner!!-WALSH here Billed as The BRITISH MID-HEAVYWEIGHT Champion!!
Lol it's short for murdoch so dont worry.this was 1 poster of 4 that my papa kept in a box for many years ,I've recently had them framed because there in good condition I'll post pics of the other 3.
Welcome Murd. Stay around and offer more. But don't harm Bernard, he's precious to us.
Thanks Murd 75. I hope that's not short for murder.
I'd better be good!
Thanks again MM. Keep looking in your treasure trove to help others . Wonderful store of goodies !
Thanks MM. Well do you believe it?
Please can you tell me the promoter involved with that write-up in the programme?
2 points stick out for me.
Different spelling for Manny Moritz.
On the 2nd page " the weight divisions were changed and standardised in KILOS.Norman Walsh became the British champion at the new 14 STONE
13 POUNDS limit of Mid Heavyweight".
Typical ! Change to KILOS but quote in Stones !
This is very interesting MM. At least I know that he went to South Africa, and that's as near the truth as you will get. As for the other stuff being discovered lately ,no-one will ever know the full truth.
That's brilliant Mr. Ost. Thank you.
It's amazing what turns up when You ,MM and Ron get together with a little help from Hack and Anglo.
I'm learning a lot more now than I ever did just in Newcastle.
We never got some of these publications . The only ones that I remember are "The Mat" and "The Ring" which was mainly about American boxers and wrestlers.
Another one for you Bernard, about the time he changed weight classes (or was moved by the promoters):
Hi MM Thank you so much. I never realised that there were so many published photos of Norman.
I believe that he was British Lightheavyweight champion and became too heavy to continue to hold that title.
Some say that they think Morrell created the Midheavytitle for him and allow someone else to take the Lightheavy crown over, Ernie Riley possibly.
Wilkipedia said Les Kellett, then Dennis Mitchell then Riley.
Thanks to all.
Someone on this site once said "The more you know ,the less you understand."
@bjh99 here's one for you Bernard. It gets confusing because the World & Euro championships were seemingly managed by Relwyskow, but they used the same belt for both. And in magazines they would show a picture of that belt and say it was the British championship too.
Now MM going back to my post a day or so, do you think that the belt worn in the picture of Johnny Allan could be the British title belt?
Thanks to Ian and Hack.
Now MM, even the promoter (Johnny Allan) did not claim to be World Champion then, only (and I say only !) British and European.
This must be the time that Marino held the World title, although I read that Allan held it for a few months, between Walsh and Marino.
Ian's right. Johnny Allan and Eric Taylor.
Hi all, i think Allan and Taylor were promoting together at that time. Hope that helps.
Regards to all Ian.
Hi guys , some weeks in 1970 Morrell seemed to be sharing the City hall.
The poster below shows the Independent Promoter
It slips my mind who this is but I am sure Hack knows.
Hi MM. Re City Hall.
Different type of poster, no prices on the later one.
Are you sure?
Hi MM. Help please !
Can you tell me the promoter for the bill at City Hall Newcastle, Oct 26 1970?
Also, Have you got a bill that shows Johnny Allan as World Champion to put up please ?
Thank you.
Hi All. As a better author than me said "curiouser and curiouser"
I think that the belt shown on many pictures on this thread is the British Mid Heavyweight title belt from JP.(Morrell originally).
Look at the belt in the photo of Norman in the A-Z. If that is the World belt then this one surely is the British belt. The two are different in size and shape.
Thanks MM, yes Norman was still (JP) British title holder until a car crash in 1965, according to Wikipedia. Marino did not get the belt until 1966.
Johhny Allan held it between those two.
Hi MM . It might be a bloody nose, but he did have a small moustache.
The picture isn't clear enough to really see.
Didn't Norman go over to Independents before 1963?
He would have certainly lost any title bestowed on him by Morrell then.