Sad news very welcoming when working over the channel,very intelligent got on well with Mick

The billing with Danny Flynn could prove to be the connection,he'd been on bills with the Ghoul and said he'd watched his working the crowd,he was as I say getting on in the late sixties thanks Ost,and Ron for your efforts

RIP dear Sam iv left this late because it's hard to believe he was always there,a consumate professional remained fiercely his own man.Jack Atherton said of him he's a diamond and jack and wryton courted him to the joint ranks to no avail. His family so proud of him and rightly so he had it all skill personality integrity and work ethic

misused mostly another era it would have easier RIP Ian good grafter who came in late in years era and age

so Anglo was it Mr charlton

if it's Charlton I can elaborate

Sadly Leon is seriously ill

mark total innovator ,skills from Colin,work ethic from his dad and make no mistake Jim could make a mop look good.Link work to taking bumps ,mat work ,energy,second to none . Brian not in same league for numerous reasons.

I was told soon after my debut how to measure how good you are,not past amatuer experience ,RAH appearances, belts or TV exposure and I think it fits here. The measure was how far your last bout was from the seafront at Blackpool and it fits the discussion here.No prizes for guessing who told me and the surprising town he was from.

possibly this should be in light workers.Brian needed light workers. was shown bout in his sixties not much change . Brian stance was that of a boxer,not much mobility even when I his prime.The sawing move wasn't received well by the punters and the workers.Brian oversold moves,his sawing was used four times In one bout the fourth I was reversed he left it alone then it was patently innocuous. Brian was a great self publicist,his faux anomysity towards Mike judd was well played and he got away with pushing Kent whereas as Garfield and Ginsberg got restrictions. Brian had total self belief and was good at using the media available ,even returning from smooth .cranium to full head of hair he used to his advantage and rode the fellow workers jokes ,yeah they all talking bout my Irish,just proves you don't have to be good you just need to tell em your good.

article was sent to me possibly retrospective article about McManus,but didn't read that way,Mal did joint stuff early on prior to 67,iv not mentioned Mals opponent it makes it worse article is 1965 I'll try and upload and trust me not a symptom of too many kicks to the

hmmm not sure my comments are relevant but here goes,looks over my shoulder.Certain promoters actually wound up non regular workers with tales of he doesn't work to order.some worked stiff out of pride,some and There Little Prince were hard to work with,pride and professionalism swapping places.Old uns like myself still tell of record crowds tussles with promoters, snow jobs,lie about money etc,never quite got this,even after all these years the porky pies come out.The promoters of joints and their support teams were masters of ego management and the game has to be protected . Before the onset of the weight watchers escapees into the game I looked at certain moves from respected colleagues and shook my head.funny how no one seemed to realise the tendon crack of a breaks special was sweat under his armpit and side being struck,but Jimmy mastered it.syd a great worker and Friend wound me up with his forward somesault from any back of the head slap and usually has a time lag.The posting was defied physics.The overlap of feet when put into an aeroplane spin.The crowd bought in be ause of the credibility and skills of the lads,so that in itself is a tribute to the game.

mellors attracted publicity he was the illicit love interest in lady Chatterley's lover all over the daily mirror during the trial. regarding the publicity re Bernard Manning's Embassy it was a case he wouldn't pay for wrestling not he didn't want it.in the 1970s he tried but Bernard being Bernard wanted control. His chief cashier was his mum he wouldn't put on any act he couldn't control

Superb topic creation.Dare I.

Dales were wary of Nagasaki purely because of his stiff working and his origins very much Wryton at a time when a combined northern move to promote in London was muted,this prior to rumours Dales courted a Wryton takeover.Billy was a total promoters man,he was very likeable but bloody hard work to wrestle against.Regarding flat shares this was the soho penthouse Syd boasted about,as it was wrestling it was far from penthouse.Special relationship well perhaps Max needed looking after,earlier his wife drove him everywhere and organised his life so it was said.Max was a character who needed respect and recognition.Billy used to say he didn't need work permits ,work that one out.Both Max and Billy believed in premanition and other border line hocus pocus. Billy weeks prior to his untimely death was stating categorically he'd be next to die. Billy was a great cook and never frequented the dale Martin greasy spoons owned by Dales.My bouts with Billy were never classics and his lack of northern exposure was promoters choice although Billy appeared few times at Derby.

No Clarke wasn't noted for kindness in the ring.You wince at Syreiger well if you noted Anglo I said Jack Dale used Torontos for cooperative working from newcomers,I'm sure you'll wince even more when I tell you that a certain young man was seen as risky and went off script and could cause problems this newcomer was put in the gym with a pull with Billy the job Billy had to do was scurf him a bit and let him understand the pro game,however it didn't go as jack intended as Billy was left wincing see I love that word now,but jack was convinced about the newcomers credentials....the man in question was Nagasaki

I'm sure what I'm about to write will astound Anglo.Firstly the dales Billy was quite different to the Jack Atherton Billy and to some extent the Morells Billy.Incidentally if your seeking his first visit try Christian name George and differently spelling of Toronto's.Now the astounding bit Jack Dale had immense faith in Billy and not just for his culinary expertise.Billy was used to test the mettle of newcomers to Dales and by this not the skills of ex amateurs but established workers from the northern promoters. Billy could scurf and be heavy and the reaction was the measure of potential working. jack Dale liked professionals with a safe light touch. Anglo you really would be amazed by the names Billy tryed rough up test. I'm sure one you'd never believe.

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cannot believe I erased this from memory looked at old excercise book ,states interview for Townley's and Bolton royal,following Fridays show Wryton