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Anglo Italian
Sep 15, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Here's a name I see as a regular visitor from Paris on UK bills of the fifties and sixties. He must have been good to keep coming back.
He had a brother, Jo, who, from memory, no-showed at the Albert Hall.
I haven't seen Georges on any of the many youtube bouts of French wrestling - perhaps because he was always in Britain!
Anyway, I'm spotting Georges on Southern bills. Does anyone know if he wrestled anywhere else?
Thank you.
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Anglo Italian
Sep 10, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Norman Walsh
Bert Royal
Jack Dempsey
Mike Marino
Tommy Mann
I've found a bill where they all lost on the same night!
It surprised me somewhat.
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Anglo Italian
Sep 10, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
This fellow defeated Mike Marino in 1955 when Goldenballs was in his pomp.
I can find nothing about him.
Can anyone help me, please?
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Anglo Italian
Sep 3, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
In the 1974 Heritage Year of Wrestling, we wrote:
"As in the previous year, Scotland once again proved the graveyard for ageing Dale Martin bill-toppers. Just like Alan Garfield before him, Mr TV Pallo now exited Joint Promotions’ employ following an extended Scottish tour where his frequent opponent, also on his last wrestling legs, was George Kidd. Pallo and Son skulked about on these fringes of Joint Promotions’ territory for the latter part of the year, no doubt establishing the groundwork for the breakaway to come. This Garfield-Pallo departure lounge in Hibernia would continue in 1975 with yet another topliner, as will be revealed “next year”."
As our Year of Wrestling stated, change was afoot in 1974. Some kind of schism was appearing within the JP members, possibly with Pallo as agitator-in.chief.
We know that the JP promoters were ageing and retiring. We know that: either Mike Marino was matchmaker for DM; or Max Crabtree was already in control. Whichever, this new powerbase seems to have caused discontent after McManus had managed Pallo's ego skilfully from 1967 through to their RAH trilogy with Pallo winning the European Middleweight Championship for those few seconds in 1973.
The Ost has rooted out that Pallo & Son appeared on Scottish JP bills in May even after having started promoting in April.
My impression is that Norman Morrell had perhaps retired on 31st March and there was a scrambling for the spoils and grabbing of opportunities. There is no way he or Dale Martin would have allowed a rival promoter to wrestle on their bills. Officially, Morrell's company closed down in December but I suspect he had pulled the plug operationally at the end of the financial year nine months earlier.
I wonder if between us we can answer any of these questions, the replies to which might help us to piece together what actually happened in 1974?
When was Pallo's last appearance on a Dale Martin bill?
When was Pallo's final tv bout?
When did Norman Morrell retire?
Who was the promoter at Nottingham Ice Rink for the remainder of 1974 and into 1975?
How active was Ted Beresford as a promoter after 31.3.1974?
Did Beresford and/or Morrell continue as tv promoters beyond 31st March 1974?
Did Peter Keenan take over Relwyskow & Green's Scottish venues in 1974? Or was his title match a one-off, a disguise?
Relwyskow never merged into Dale Martin and continued until 1992. But did they retain tv shows? When was their final tv show?
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Anglo Italian
Aug 3, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
This list arises from James' and Main Mask's nominations of Monsieur Montréal and Klondike Kate elsewhere. I have added a couple but I believe this will be tough. It's the wrestlers' principal ring names we need here.
Locals North Americans Internationals
Johnny England Klondikes...Bill, Kate, Jake The Wild Man of Borneo
Eric Leyland Mississippi Mauler Le Bourreau de Béthune
Belfast Bruiser Mike Dallas The Bengal Tigers
Eric Leyland Monsieur Montréal Isha Israel
Boston Blackie Alaskan Tasker Kendo Nagasaki
Yorkshire Kid (Hack explains below) Kansas City Bomber Hungarian Horsemen
Roy & Tony St. Clair Texas Jack Bence Magnificent Magyars
The South London Tough Guys Catalina George Drake The Hellenes
The Lincolnshire Poachers Cheyenne The Iron Greek
The Wiganers Harlem Jim Brown Leon Arras
Miss Scotland Texas Ted Heath Miss Portugal
The Mighty Ince Hellfire Montana Stars of India
The Liverpool Skinheads Carolina Kid Mongolian Mauler
(Terry O'Neill is now 3 times on these lists.) Jamaica George
Jamaica Kid
Kilkenny Cat
Frank Malmoa
Haiti Kid
Under Review
Jack London
The Johannesburg Giant Jan Wilko - above or below?
The following subsidiary list will yield a lot more, I'm sure:
Wrestlers' Geographical Bylines
The Polish Eagle (Johnny Czeslaw & Vladimir Waldberg,)
The Butcher of Budapest (Josef Kovacs)
The Dulwich Destroyer (McManus)
The Yorkshire Farmer (Kellett)
The African Witchdoctor (Masambula)
The Chicago Express (Tornado Torontos)
The Doncaster Panther (Jack Pye)
The Scourge of the East (Ahmet Chong)
The Terror from the North (Klondyke Jake: from Devon!)
The Portsmouth Adonis (Bob Kirkwood)
The Hampshire Farmer (John Kowalski)
The Welsh Wizard (Tony Charles)
The Cockney Kid (Tony Scarlo et al.)
The Russian Lion (Hackenschmidt)
The Terrible Turk (Ahmed Madrali)
The Walthamstow Bear (John Elijah)
Giant El Paso Cowboy (Ski Hi Lee)
As usual, all must have wrestled in the UK.
Any more?
Coincidentals
We are really looking for wrestlers who creatively chose in some way their geographical epithets. Some, listed here, just happened to have surnames that were also places:
Jack Atherton Bernard Bradford Peter Preston Derek Oldham
Alf Kent Alec Burton Roger Wells Paul Lincoln
John Lees Judo Al Hayes Tom Nelson Bruno Elrington
Bert Mansfield Flash Jordan Chesterfield Smith Blackburn Roberts
Bill Stirling Ray Crawley Cyclone Stockton Vicky Montrose
Buster Kilburn Eric Brazil Tom Tyrone Big Bill Bromley
Rocco Colombo Johnny Stafford Kiwi Kingston Tony Barry
Young Chester
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Anglo Italian
Jul 30, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Here's a treat for sixties fans of UK wrestling.
But as usual we have to go cap in hand to our French friends, with thanks for uploading Paris action:
Peter Maivia vs Johnny Lynch (JIP) - Vasilios Mantopolous vs Anton Tejero 1,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqF8M3q7omY&list=PLJ811z1HQb3mv9GYvCe5o8a4ATgEImFqF&index=80
It really is Danny Lynch in spite of the absence of claret.
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Anglo Italian
Jul 25, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Ron just Wrote: "I had given up by 1981".
I had just written: "I'm all at sea after 1978."
We're all the same.
Here we are, clearly articulate pensioners, probably much sharper youngsters way back then, yet we all came to the difficult but obviously inevitable decision to bin 10 or 15 years of our young lives, 80% or 90% of our aware years, as the the whole wrestling show became too difficult not merely to defend, but even to enjoy.
We suffered in our decision making. Well, I did.
Speaking 100% personally, and others will disagree, I hated Max Crabtree and his coarse dumbing down of the magnificent "business" that was professional wrestling. The hatred was deep, not a superficial graze. Here was I, a wrestling nut, appreciative all along of the efforts of all involved to make a serious go of it. Joining in, from my tiny, tiny perspective, as a committed fan.
Then somehow - I was largely unaware then, but my virginal judgment was unimpaired - this absolute OAF arrived and crashed the lot. Ok, there were challenges. A brain resolves and moves ahead, as the Yanks did. This OAF merely lined the pockets of his family with a short term plan based on Yorkshire greed.
And yet, in my twilight years, as I try to elevate the interests of my youth and analyse what excited me, I feel like a martyr. A believer whose belief was wiped out.
Oh, I don't mean belief that it was all real. We were too intelligent for that even without hindsight and 21st Century internet. We, and thousands like us, bought into a suspension of disbelief. It's weird. But on a larger scale, the Americans are still doing so with their wrestling. Look at the love for Hulk Hogan today.
What a shame no greater seventies brain appeared.
Am I alone?
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Anglo Italian
Jul 24, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Now we can understand why Jacques Ducrez shifted his guise from Jacquerez to Le Bourreau de Béthune in about 1965. He was in fact the second Bourreau, the original having retired through injury that year.
The original was Freddy Robert (real name Robert Moreau). It was he in the fifties and early sixties had the legendary mask v mask matches with L'Ange Blanc. The absolute heyday of French wrestling.
Here are some translations of texts I have found:
"Before, people used to say to me, 'My father saw you at Wagram in 1960.' Now, it's more like, 'My grandfather told me about you.'" In Laà-Mondrans, Robert Moreau, aka Freddy Robert, aka "the Executioner of Béthune," cultivates the discreet nostalgia of a man caught up in old age. It's here, near Orthez, that the once-legendary wrestling legend retired. Not the body-built, pumped-up, US-glitzy wrestling that's been a hit with teenagers for the past few years. No, this French-style wrestling, reminiscent of Chéri Bibi, and reminiscent of Audiard's atmosphere, the gentle France of the 1950s and 1960s. Well, not so gentle when you learn of the 17 broken bones Freddy Robert suffered during his career. At the time, he was, along with the White Angel, one of the legendary figures among French wrestlers, capable of drawing crowds. "I often saw kids in the streets of Paris playing The Executioner of Béthune," says Robert Moreau, who doesn't dwell on his glory years. Which lasted only six years, in all, at the turn of the 1950s into the 1960s. At the time, Freddy Robert (his wrestling name) was busy in Germany, where he had a television contract, when one of the main organizers..."
Freddy worked subsequently as a bodyguard for Jean Marie Le Pen. Here's a snippet from there:
"Thierry Légier was 27 when he began his service with Le Pen in August 1992, replacing Robert Moreau, alias "Freddy, the Executioner of Béthune," a former wrestling star from the 1960s, who had made his mark on ORTF evenings, commentated by Claude Darget and Roger Couderc. A colossus who would crush your hand while greeting you, a broken face, and cauliflower ears that would make Légier look like a first communion student. "
And from Le Monde:
"Béthune, a sub-prefecture of Pas-de-Calais, is famous for its donkey and its executioner. The unpredictable equine legend refers to the medieval philosopher Jean Buridan, and the axe-wielding artist belongs to the anthology of Alexandre Dumas. Bearing the terrifying title of "Executioner of Béthune", Freddy Robert, whose real name was Robert Moreau, haunted the rings of France in the 1960s. Wrestling fans have kept the vague memory of a mountain of muscles (183 centimeters) harnessed, in red, from head to toe, who was supposed to play the role of the villain under the boos of the crowd. A quarter of a century later, the man has lost a lot of weight, but he trains regularly in his gym and runs 10 kilometers daily. "Freddy", who became Mr. Jean-Marie Le Pen's bodyguard......."
Looks like we have been quite wrong all these years, though we have correctly named the visiting wrestler, if not the initiator.
Until now.
A new confusion emerges as we try to unravel who was who in the photos we have. Above is certainly Freddy. Quite why the masked man also had a pseudonym remains unclear.
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Anglo Italian
Jul 23, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
This is to separate out wrestlers names based on history from those topical names based on current or recent characters.
So we can start with Ron's cowboys but I am not sure of any injun who actually had a name based on a real chief? Come to think of it, Jack Cassidy wasn't a cowboy! Maybe he is for the (tomahawk) chop?
Another hanging on by the skin of his teeth is Pancho. A google doesn't convince me he was based on anyone. Please defend him, someone, or he's out.
Mustapher Nasser is another dodgy one. Who's he based on? Not the Suez Canal man.
There were only five to start with but more controversy than a riotous tag match.
Here's the updated list:
El Greco
Genghis Khan
Jean Ferré (Was Géant Ferré a real person; or as a legendary character does he go below?)
Rasputin
Mark Antony
Robert Bruce
John Dillinger (Hack saw the wrestler)
Ivan the Terrible (nobody seems to know who this wrestler was)
Iron Duke (magnificently showcased by Ron and Main Mask below)
The Black Prince
Guy Lombardo
Jack London
Tony Zale
Wat Tyler (Eddie Rose incarnation)
General Belgrano (Hack knows a wrestler)
Blue Angel
Karl Marx
Jon Casanova
Historical inasmuch as based on literary creations, but fictional:
Le Petit Prince
Le Bourreau de Béthune
The Wild Man of Borneo
Robin Hoode
Black Knight (from King Arthur)
Gargantua (both wrestlers)
Under review
The Moonraker Kid (30s wrestler, 1952 civil war novel)
Chris Adams. From The Magnificent Seven, perhaps. Anyone know if this was the wrestler's real name?
Spencer Churchill. What can we do with him?
Special Mention.
Mitzi Mueller. Because she is.
Ray Glendenning, because he shared the same name as a famous broadcaster.
Spencer Churchill, because he shared his real name with the Chancellor of the Exchequer at birth.
DQ'd so far:
Cowboy Jack Cassidy
Mustapher Nasser
Pancho Zapatta
Taras Bulba
Ultimate Warrior. Did not appear on UK bills (WWF bills in UK do not count by executive decree.)
I suppose I should broadly define what I mean by historical: characters from more than 40 or so years previously.
Are there any more?
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Anglo Italian
Jul 17, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
You had to land, maybe on dodgy knees. Laboriously climb back into the ring. Worst of all, you ended up close and personal with the punters, and if you were a baddie, this could be dangerous.
So I never ever recall Steve Logan exiting the ring.
Nor Robby Baron.
Any others?
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Anglo Italian
Jul 14, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Le Hippy as just mentioned was a very topical ring name in 1968. And on that same Paris bill, so was Batman.
So my mind wanders to think of UK wrestlers who took their names from current affairs or tv shows?
I started with seven of my own and am adding everybody's contributions:
Le Hippy
Batman
Catweazle
Kung Fu
The Exorcist
Liverpool Skinheads
Hells Angels
Spartacus
"Rollerball" Mark Rocco
Les Blousons Noirs/French Teddy Boys
The Rockers
Big Daddy
The Untouchables (Graham and Arras)
Les Incorruptables (The Untouchables in French, Kirkwood and Bridges)
Carver Doone
Jack Dempsey
King Kong (Emil Czaja and Mal Kirk)
Kojak Kirk
Quasimodo.
Scarface Laval.
The Ghoul
The Mighty Quinn
Power Rangers
Bullwhip Griffin (Hack knows a film; Hack knows a wrestler)
Elephant Boy
Ray Charles
Widespread use of probably genuine military ranks in wartime.
Wild Tarzan, Tarzan Johnny Wilson. And other Tarzans.
Dr Blood.
Bruce Welch of The Shadows. (Hack knows a wrestler)
Young Apollo and other Apollos
Stubby Kaye
Spiderman.
Tom Thumb.
Taras Bulba
Karate Kid
The Artful Dodgers
Johnny Saint.
Boston Blackie (Powerlock is Number One Fan)
The Barons
Robby Baron
Cheri Bibi
Hurricane Smith
Odd Job
Robbie Brookside
The Champions
Nobby Garside
Sammy Lee
Mark Rocco
Under review
Bert Royal
Christine Keeler (really????)
Spencer Churchill - moved to Historicals.
Can you think of any more?
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Anglo Italian
Jul 14, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
I remember reading with fascination reports of the French wrestler, billed in UK as Le Hippy, when he wrestled at the Royal Albert Hall. I imagine that was his sole UK appearance?
I am now pleasantly surprised to find a match of his on line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7348-r7Zog
Nice in the comments to see he is still alive at age 89 and his name is Gaston Jung Valléé.
The first bout features a very active and unmasked Batman, Dave Larsen.
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Anglo Italian
Jun 27, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
Paul just used this expression to explain Pte Sponge's fascination with live wrestling shows. This gets me to wondering just what were the elements of a wrestling presentation that made it a good night out.
I'll start with the obvious and then add a few personal ones and hope some other old-timers will have features to add.
A good balanced bill.
Good poster with wrestler and bout descriptions.
Well set out hall with fixed seats.
Soberly dinner-jacketed MC.
Serious looking timekeeper with bell.
Seconds with some kind of uniform.
Usherettes to take you to your seat (before you slipped forward to the more expensive rows on your own...)
An MC who talked it all up, as if it was the most important sport in the world. (So Charlie Fisher or Harry Roth; definitely not Bobby Palmer.)
St John's Ambulance in attendance.
Fault-free PA.
Some kind of charity angle to the raffle.
I took the above for granted when I attended. Then, on occasional visits to other venues I'd see the differences and appreciate that nothing happened by chance and all the details had been thought out.
These details all made you think this just had to be a legit sport. Surely they couldn't all be in on the hoax?
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Anglo Italian
Apr 24, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
The beauty of our lively forum is when one topic borrows another and from the Baldwin-Assirati project I want to elaborate a topic that interests me enormously.
Bernard correctly emphasised that in the 1950s Norman Morrell was the top dog, and seemingly the unofficial, but very real, President of Joint Promotions. For Norman, control of all the British titles titles was very precious.
Dale Martin were also interested in the titles. They just had to sit and accept that they would have none, part of being 1953 JP newbies.
Once the balance of JP power had swung dramatically in Dale Martin's favour in approx 1961, Dale Martin redressed the title imbalance, claiming control of nearly all of them through the sixties. Dale Martin wanted the titles all right and claimed them as soon as they had the power.
My interest through all this is working out just how, why and when this very dramatic and visible Southwards powershift occurred. So far I've linked it to the tv contract - which we know little about but which I do suspect Mick McManus was at the epicentre of. My reasoning? His self-bestowal of 173 tv appearances. Renewed plaudits to Hack for being the driving force at Wrestling Heritage in creating the painstakingly compiled and magnificent lists of wrestlers' tv appearances, a hierarchy that has been pored over by thousands of site visitors.
As usual, I love to analyse the lists and try and make deductions from them. If I am right, we can examine McManus's early tv work to see when his power took off.
1955 - Zero appearances
1956 - just one
1957 - one
1958 - three
1959 - Zero
1960 - one
1961 - eight
1962 - eight
1963 - eight.
Quite a striking result. McManus jumped from a total of six tv appearances in the first six tv years to a remarkably regular eight appearances a year. At that time, he probably thought eight would be the most that he could reasonably claim. With Absolute power, he would later disregard even the eight barrier.
I am so glad 1961 is the first eighter; otherwise we might have been led to believe his rise was due to the Pallo feud which started mid-1962.
From this very clear evidence, we can surmise that something radically changed within Joint Promotions in 1960.
I wonder what?
1960 was also the year Paul Lincoln Promotions and Dr Death took off. Could there possibly be a connection?
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Anglo Italian
Mar 15, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
In the week of the passing of one of my favourite wrestlers, Denbighshire's Al "Buster" Martin, a comment I made on here has been playing on my mind: how he apologised to me for signing his name, as it were, wrongly.
I know that we have Members who like to see before believing, so the Ides of March have allowed the stars to align and for the first time for a while, in Buster's honour, I have delved into my memorabilia collection to root out the autograph in question. From memory I only ever got his autograph once, so it was a Naylor in a Haystacks job.
Not only have the stars aligned but so have the settings on my new scanner, and I am thrilled to have been able to find the missing autograph and to be able to share it with Members now!
Not only that, I find one of my Royal Albert Hall programmes with a near nap hand of autographs. What happy memories collecting all these. Only one fiend foiled me...look!
I am delighted to be able to share this with you all. Just 18 months later, these magnificent 16-page glossy Royal Albert Hall programmes would be reduced by the power-that-was to four superficial pages on coarse, cheap paper with grainy print and chaotic fonts. I hope you have as much pleasure seeing these for the first time as I have in rediscovering them and remembering the Chase.
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Anglo Italian
Mar 5, 2025
In Memories of the Old Days
In the early seventies Alan Garfield would often pop up to replace an indisposed wrestler. It seemed like he couldn't be doing with the commitment of a month's bookings but knew there would be last-minute work somewhere most nights if he wanted it. He was great value.
The best substitution I can recall was in 1972 when Rocky Wall was wrestling seemingly eight nights a week, taking his title nationwide on an intense basis. He was billed to wrestle in the main event at the White Rock against the West African Zulu warrior from Guyana, Prince Kumali. Only in wrestling could the promoters manage to mangle three geographical inaccuracies into one; but we lapped that up.
Anyway, the West Indian with the Clark Gable look was unavailable so Dale Martin needed to find a replacement in the main event. We duly got a main eventer in Steve Logan. I shall leave aside that the match was a one-sided squib with Albert dwarfing Logan, giving nothing and Logan losing 0-2, unusual in itself. The outcome was correct but we were left disappointed at the mismatch and not seeing the British champion in more challenging action.
Nonetheless, Steve Logan remains the most high-profile substitute I have seen.
And I am wondering if any other Members recall other big names subbing?
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Anglo Italian
Nov 27, 2024
In Memories of the Old Days
In my twenty-year voyage of discovery as an internet fan, some of the most satisfying revelations have been when one wrestler compliments another, thereby revealing to me their professionalism in all those bouts I witnessed 50+ years ago.
At home once with Heritage favourite Bob Kirkwood, the most self-deprecating of anyone we name on this site, the Portsmouth Adonis shared the revelation that "Alfie could make a broomstick look good." I lapped that up. Maybe you lap it up likewise if you are reading this for the first time.
So my mind wanders to wonder what other satisfaction I can derive from similar peer praise, just like those comments about Judo Al Hayes.
Steve Best's family shared with us a few months ago that Mick McManus was Steve's favourite opponent: such a light worker who could arouse such heat. Bob also nominated Mick in a bout where the Dulwich Destroyer had to whisper: "Too much heat; you go over." And a dq duly ensued.
I have enjoyed Paul Mitchell trying to defend "Puffing Billy" whilst not being completely, or even partially, convinced. This (blind) camaraderie is also interesting. However, as a dedicatedly objective OUTsider, with no aspirations to ingratiate, I will continue to look for wrestling truth, be there such a thing, above loyalty or, in the case of some fans, mere adulation.
In the BBC TV documentary, Johnny Kincaid was complimentary about Nagasaki in a way we are not accustomed to. His words still resonate with me.
Most surprising of all is that, at this point, my list starts to dry up.
Oh they all loved Vic and Bert ... after their passings. This list needs to embrace more than polite obituaries.
Poring over the hundreds of pages of the Nagasaki book, one remains hard-pressed to identify just who the wrestlers were that he most appreciated for putting him over. Bruno gets some kind of mention, but not exactly enthusiastic.
I just cannot recall any wrestler recording comments about how skilled the likes of Masambula or Sid Cooper or Tibor Szakacs were.
I would love to extend my list with others' further contributions.
Hope you can help?
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Anglo Italian
Nov 4, 2024
In Memories of the Old Days
Just watching the Hackenschmidt bout on mats and I was surprised they weren't in a roped ring.
This sets me to wondering: when did the first ring appear for wrestling? In UK and elsewhere.
Maybe there had been wrestling rings before the Hackenschmidt bout we see.
It's not as if it was a mind-blowing innovation, merely copying boxing. But some of the simplest discoveries have been based on common sense, like Isaac Newton's.
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Anglo Italian
Aug 27, 2024
In Memories of the Old Days
Very rare for "our" wrestlers and wrestling still to hit the headlines in 2024, but:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/30111209/worlds-oldest-wrestler-flogs-mega-mansion/
Sweet implication that he Kamikaze crashed Haystacks!
I find the language strange as written by someone who was no doubt born this century. Like World of Sport was a tv "show." Terrible to be so young and so out of touch.....
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Anglo Italian
May 5, 2024
In Memories of the Old Days
I can think of a handful who wrestled in UK, clearly limiting myself to proper masked wrestlers, not fly-by-nights:
The Ghoul
The Exorcist
The Outlaw
Le Bourreau de Béthune
And of course giving a wide berth to Mexicans who would do my head in.
Unsure about The Professor and 1973 Black Angel.
Any others?
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